Post by fear on Jun 14, 2007 22:18:44 GMT
After Looking around everywhere i could think of, i found out this. I think this might possibly make 40k enjoyable again.
Most of this will probably mean nada to many of you, so just ask any questions on here.
(i didnt write this, but i got permission of the weirdo who did)
Apocalypse Rules:
Release is rumoured to be October with pre-release on GD UK
Rules for games of 3000+ points
Some say it’s a Huge book (almost if not as big as the Rulebook)
Others say it’s as big as Cities of Death
Some have mentioned the possibility of multiple editions
Super-heavy tank rules. Most say they are in the main book. Some say they could be in a future supplement. They will supposedly work almost exactly the same way as in the Forge World books, but it’s been reported they “tend to explode in a more spectacular fashion”
Warlord, Revenant and possibly other Titans will supposedly see rules. It has been suggested that models will be forthcoming, but not until plastic technology catches up with requirements (ie a LONG way off)
Some say Fliers didn’t make the cut, whilst others insist they are in the book including the Thunderhawk, the Lightning and the Valkyrie and that they now do not leave the table.
Hydra Flack Tanks (and possibly other AA options) are supposedly in the book
There have been rumours of a new Land Raider variant
A weapon strength will possibly have the option of saying D (for death). Baleanoon tells us the description for Strength D reads something like:
"These weapons are so powerful that they require no dice rolling to wound, any model hit automatically dies, thats right no armour saves, invulnerable saves, this weapon doesn't care about your dodge save or demonic powers."
Games will reportedly not use the Force Organisation Charts and possibly not Points limits
Some insist points are still used and that a player with fewer points can restore balance through using extra stratagems
An Orbital Bombardment with 6 linked Ordinance templates (or a special new template) has been mentioned as a possible stratagem
Some rules simplifications have been hinted at, such as any weapon of S7+ ignores armour saves entirely
There have been rumours of ally lists; ie SM & guard, Chaos & orks etc.
Some have suggested an Eye Of Terror style Order and Disorder division.
Formations:
Taking “Formations” of units could reportedly provide in-game bonuses. For example:
-Imperial Guard can field Ogryn Auxiliary Companies, consisting of 3 squads of 5 Ogryns, giving the player a free command squad, and commissars may be attached directly to the units.
-10 Leman Russ tanks earns you a command tank that helps to ignore crew shaken/stunned effects
-3 or more Necron monoliths generate a "Shadow Field" giving whatever is inside the formation +1 to we'll be back rolls. Also no psychic powers work within the field.
-SM Land Speeders can act as “spotters” for Whirlwinds, giving them unlimited range.
-Space Marine Counsel with individual members suppling bonuses such as flanking manoeuvres etc.
-Marines may be able to take 3 vindicators as a unit allowing them to target the same point, getting a 10 inch template.
-Abaddon may be able to take a very large Terminator retinue
-Tau may get a formation of one command unit, and body guard. 3 Crisis Suit units, and a number of Stealth Suits.
-Special Markerlight options for squadrons of 3 + hammerheads
-Eldar "Windrider Host" composed mostly of jetbikes/vypers. Supposedly grants a pre-game redeployment ability
-Bonesinger may get rules
These options might come in the form of stratagems
Models:
Baneblade
New Baneblade done, painted and being used in Studio games
Some say it is 1 inch larger than the FW one all round. Some say 1 inch smaller.
Reports tell of 3 additional variants:
- Different turret option (some say Yarrick’s personal Baneblade)
- Chaos (some say Nurgle specific)
- Ork
The hull has supposedly been designed with empty sections to make it easier to convert
Price rumoured to be between £50 and £100 with £60 seeming to be favourite
Ork Stompa
A large kit by Aly Morrison. Reportedly 8 Sprues
Supposedly put on hold until they can work out how to get it onto fewer sprues.
Drop Pods
The usual “problems in production” excuse. Expect to see as a later release maybe with the Blood Angels or Space Wolves Codex whenever they come.
Supposedly there are 3 options
- Standard
- Deathwind
- Dreadnought
Trygon
Not much known. A possible future release.
Valkyrie
A model was seen, but never intended for release. It was made to test the large model production systems.
It’s a possible future release if sales of other large models are good, as they already have it scanned into the computer.
Space Marine Battle Company
Includes parts for the following:
- 6 Tactical squads
- 2 Assault Squads
- 2 Devastator Squads
- Command Squad
- Dreadnought
- Land Raider
- Predator
- "Extra stuff" like decals
comes in a big wooden crate
Possibility of a bigger, direct-only box containing the sprues for 400+ marines but with just the sprues.
There is also talk of other Multi-tank boxes such as 3 Basilisks or 3 Hammerheads possibly priced at 3 for the price of 2.
Most of this will probably mean nada to many of you, so just ask any questions on here.
(i didnt write this, but i got permission of the weirdo who did)
Apocalypse Rules:
Release is rumoured to be October with pre-release on GD UK
Rules for games of 3000+ points
Some say it’s a Huge book (almost if not as big as the Rulebook)
Others say it’s as big as Cities of Death
Some have mentioned the possibility of multiple editions
Super-heavy tank rules. Most say they are in the main book. Some say they could be in a future supplement. They will supposedly work almost exactly the same way as in the Forge World books, but it’s been reported they “tend to explode in a more spectacular fashion”
Warlord, Revenant and possibly other Titans will supposedly see rules. It has been suggested that models will be forthcoming, but not until plastic technology catches up with requirements (ie a LONG way off)
Some say Fliers didn’t make the cut, whilst others insist they are in the book including the Thunderhawk, the Lightning and the Valkyrie and that they now do not leave the table.
Hydra Flack Tanks (and possibly other AA options) are supposedly in the book
There have been rumours of a new Land Raider variant
A weapon strength will possibly have the option of saying D (for death). Baleanoon tells us the description for Strength D reads something like:
"These weapons are so powerful that they require no dice rolling to wound, any model hit automatically dies, thats right no armour saves, invulnerable saves, this weapon doesn't care about your dodge save or demonic powers."
Games will reportedly not use the Force Organisation Charts and possibly not Points limits
Some insist points are still used and that a player with fewer points can restore balance through using extra stratagems
An Orbital Bombardment with 6 linked Ordinance templates (or a special new template) has been mentioned as a possible stratagem
Some rules simplifications have been hinted at, such as any weapon of S7+ ignores armour saves entirely
There have been rumours of ally lists; ie SM & guard, Chaos & orks etc.
Some have suggested an Eye Of Terror style Order and Disorder division.
Formations:
Taking “Formations” of units could reportedly provide in-game bonuses. For example:
-Imperial Guard can field Ogryn Auxiliary Companies, consisting of 3 squads of 5 Ogryns, giving the player a free command squad, and commissars may be attached directly to the units.
-10 Leman Russ tanks earns you a command tank that helps to ignore crew shaken/stunned effects
-3 or more Necron monoliths generate a "Shadow Field" giving whatever is inside the formation +1 to we'll be back rolls. Also no psychic powers work within the field.
-SM Land Speeders can act as “spotters” for Whirlwinds, giving them unlimited range.
-Space Marine Counsel with individual members suppling bonuses such as flanking manoeuvres etc.
-Marines may be able to take 3 vindicators as a unit allowing them to target the same point, getting a 10 inch template.
-Abaddon may be able to take a very large Terminator retinue
-Tau may get a formation of one command unit, and body guard. 3 Crisis Suit units, and a number of Stealth Suits.
-Special Markerlight options for squadrons of 3 + hammerheads
-Eldar "Windrider Host" composed mostly of jetbikes/vypers. Supposedly grants a pre-game redeployment ability
-Bonesinger may get rules
These options might come in the form of stratagems
Models:
Baneblade
New Baneblade done, painted and being used in Studio games
Some say it is 1 inch larger than the FW one all round. Some say 1 inch smaller.
Reports tell of 3 additional variants:
- Different turret option (some say Yarrick’s personal Baneblade)
- Chaos (some say Nurgle specific)
- Ork
The hull has supposedly been designed with empty sections to make it easier to convert
Price rumoured to be between £50 and £100 with £60 seeming to be favourite
Ork Stompa
A large kit by Aly Morrison. Reportedly 8 Sprues
Supposedly put on hold until they can work out how to get it onto fewer sprues.
Drop Pods
The usual “problems in production” excuse. Expect to see as a later release maybe with the Blood Angels or Space Wolves Codex whenever they come.
Supposedly there are 3 options
- Standard
- Deathwind
- Dreadnought
Trygon
Not much known. A possible future release.
Valkyrie
A model was seen, but never intended for release. It was made to test the large model production systems.
It’s a possible future release if sales of other large models are good, as they already have it scanned into the computer.
Space Marine Battle Company
Includes parts for the following:
- 6 Tactical squads
- 2 Assault Squads
- 2 Devastator Squads
- Command Squad
- Dreadnought
- Land Raider
- Predator
- "Extra stuff" like decals
comes in a big wooden crate
Possibility of a bigger, direct-only box containing the sprues for 400+ marines but with just the sprues.
There is also talk of other Multi-tank boxes such as 3 Basilisks or 3 Hammerheads possibly priced at 3 for the price of 2.